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Ultrastability... Autopoiesis? Reflective Response to Tom Froese and John Stewart

机译：超稳定性...自生能力？对汤姆·弗洛斯和约翰·斯图尔特的反思

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It is unfortunate that Tom Froese and John Stewart in their article have treated the thinking of Ross Ashby as a conceptual source for my work and the development of the notion of autopoiesis, because by doing so they have obscured their possibility of seeing what questions I am answering in my work. It is also unfortunate that they have assumed that I follow the path of cybernetics, which certainly is not the case. Cybernetics has been used in the attempt to formalize the circularity of biological processes, but one formalizes what one thinks about the processes that one wants to formalize and not the process that one believes to be formalizing. If one is not aware of this, one confuses the formalism proposed with the process that one intended to formalize, and this is what has happened with the notion of autopoiesis at least in the reflections about it. In this context it is unfortunate that in their scholarly effort the authors of this article, in their attempt to show that I do not satisfy what seems to be their deep feeling that living to occur requires the operation of some organizing principle, have been blind and deaf to what I say in my writings. At the same time I think that it is good that at the end of their article they recognize that Ashby's notions about ultrastability are not adequate to understand what makes a living system a living discrete autonomous entity.
机译：不幸的是，汤姆·弗洛斯（Tom Froese）和约翰·斯图尔特（John Stewart）在他们的文章中将罗斯·阿什比（Ross Ashby）的思想视为我的工作和自我生成概念的发展的概念来源，因为这样做使他们看不到看到我有什么问题的可能性在我的工作中回答。同样不幸的是，他们以为我遵循了控制论的道路，但事实并非如此。控制论已被用来使生物学过程的循环性形式化，但它使人们对要形式化的过程的想法而不是对人们认为形式化的过程的想法形式化。如果不知道这一点，就将提议的形式主义与一个人要形式化的过程相混淆，这就是自养概念的发生，至少在对它的反思中。在这种情况下，不幸的是，本文的作者在他们的学术努力中，试图表明我不满足于他们的深刻感觉，即生活的发生需要某种组织原则的运用，使他们深感不知所措。听不懂我在作品中所说的话。同时，我认为在他们文章的最后，他们认识到Ashby关于超稳定性的概念不足以理解是什么使生命系统成为一个离散的自治实体，这是很好的。

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