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Reply to Commentaries by Dodi Goldman and Avgi Saketopoulou

机译：回复Dodi Goldman和Avgi Saketopoulou的评论

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In this newly fashioned dialogue that allows us three respondents to continue our first-round discussions, I treasure the opportunity of learning more about Farhi's and Milner's works through the lenses of Dodi Goldman and Avgi Saketopoulou. Both respondents bring additional important historical information to this virtual roundtable, giving me another chance of re-reading Farhi's text through these new perspectives. I think that Goldman's information about Milner's interest in the natural science contributes a great deal to my understanding of her amazing capacity to tolerate her patient's changing psychotic states. I also learn a lot from Saketopoulou's sensitive discussion of the patient's last phone call to Milner shortly before her death in which the patient informs Milner that she had failed her in similar ways as Winnicott had failed Milner. I suggest a slightly different reading of the word failure and propose that the patient's utterance was a sign of a renewed strength rather than a statement of utter disappointment. A discussion of the place of phantasy in the intra-uterine life of a baby is also included in my response.View full textDownload full textRelated var addthis_config = { ui_cobrand: "Taylor & Francis Online", services_compact: "citeulike,netvibes,twitter,technorati,delicious,linkedin,facebook,stumbleupon,digg,google,more", pubid: "ra-4dff56cd6bb1830b" }; Add to shortlist Link Permalink http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10481885.2010.514817
机译：在这种新的对话方式中，我们三个答卷人可以继续进行第一轮讨论，我珍惜这次机会，可以通过Dodi Goldman和Avgi Saketopoulou的镜头来进一步了解Farhi和Milner的作品。两位受访者都将其他重要的历史信息带到了这个虚拟的圆桌会议上，这给了我另一种机会通过这些新观点来重新阅读法西的著作。我认为，高盛关于米尔纳对自然科学感兴趣的信息，极大地帮助了我对她耐受患者不断变化的精神病状态的惊人能力的理解。我还从Saketopoulou对病人临死前最后一次打给Milner的电话的敏感讨论中学到了很多东西，病人告诉Milner她以与Winnicott失败Milner相似的方式使她失败。我建议对失败一词的阅读略有不同，并建议患者的话语是力量恢复的征兆，而不是表示完全失望。我的回答中还包含了关于幻像术在婴儿子宫内生活中的位置的讨论。 technorati，delicious，linkedin，facebook，stumbleupon，digg，google，more“，发布：” ra-4dff56cd6bb1830b“};添加到候选列表链接永久链接http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/10481885.2010.514817

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